150+ Medical Doctors Who Are Morons

So here’s an argument you might hear with regards to vaccines.


there are actually quite a lot of MD’s against vaccination, though their voices are not widely heard as they are sidelined by the MSM. This article links to a list of 150+ MD’s (no google degrees here) who have spoken out:

I guess they’re all crazy…


The short, sweet, and simple answer to that is, “Yes, yes they all are crazy”. Well, okay, not crazy. Just dumb. It’s like if you showed me a list of 300 geologists who all believed that the earth was expanding and that plate tectonics was fake, or 600 biologists who all believed that evolution was fake. What should I take from a list like that? Well, you should take from that list that there are a lot of very dumb people wit medical degrees, and that not all doctors are equal.


Let’s start for a moment by asking ourselves, “how significant is this number?” I mean, after all, 150 doctors… That’s a lot of people! Right? Well, according to this census by the National Area Health Education Center, the total number of medical doctors in the USA is 850,000. Hmm. Out of 850,000, 150 is suddenly a slightly less impressive number. You know, almost 0.02%. If there was actually anything to those fears, don’t you think you’d have a slightly larger list? 0.02% is a ratio you could probably come up with for any crackpot cause.


A homeopathic tincture

Not Pictured: Medicine

But of course, it only gets worse from there. You see, it’s not just that not all MDs are equal. It’s also that medicine is a highly complex, fractal field. A doctor who is an expert in dermatology may not be particularly well-trained in immunology; a doctor who is an expert in poison control may be absolutely incompetent in surgery; and a doctor who is an expert on homeopathy may be a “doctor” in the same way that Kent Hovind is a “scientist”. In the case of vaccines, what fields actually are likely to be well-informed? Immunology, toxicology, pediatrics, and a handful of others.


But you know what? Let’s be charitable and assume that any real medical scientist is capable of understanding the evidence and data surrounding vaccines. Let’s instead just look at some of the names that make the list. For example, Sherri Tenpenny. Who blamed the Newton shooting on vaccines. Or Rashid Buttar.

“Rashid Buttar is an osteopath who believes that the cause of all chronic disease is “toxicity.” This doesn’t mean he thinks poisons or infections are the cause of all disease, however, because he thinks there are “energetic toxicities,” “psychological/emotional toxicities,” and “spiritual toxicities.”…
On November 20, 2007, the North Carolina Medical Board charged Buttar with providing therapies to several cancer patients “that were unproven and wholly ineffective. The therapies consisted primarily of intravenous administration of a variety of substances, none of which has any known value for the treatment of cancer. The substances included EDTA (ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid), chromium, certain vitamins, and hydrogen peroxide.”

Or Raymond Obamsawin, the author of some infamously bad articles (not peer-reviewed papers, more like blog posts really) that dishonestly tried to show that the measles vaccine didn’t cause a decline in measles. Or Boyd Haley, a crank who espouses chelation therapy and believes that dental amalgams can cause autism and alzheimer’s. And these are just a few who caught my eye – who knows how many more people on the list are just out-and-out quacks?


And of course, it doesn’t help that the phrasing is a load of crap as well.


“The following is a list of scientists and physicians who acknowledge that vaccines can and do harm some children and/or have some concern about a vaccine, combinations of vaccines, the vaccine schedule, or an ingredient or ingredients in vaccines.”


Right. Just like with the discovery institute’s “list”, the phrasing is couched in the veneer of scientific uncertainty. Here’s the thing though. Every doctor is well aware that vaccines can and do harm some children. This is not news. This is not some big secret that’s being hidden; there’s no conspiracy to hide this from you. The Vaccine Injury Court wouldn’t exist if this wasn’t well-established. Like with any medicine, from Aspirin to Zyprexia, there’s a chance of severe adverse reactions. Here’s the issue though – the chances of them actually occurring are phenomenally small. To take it from the CDC (which you should, because they’re essentially the best resource for information on diseases currently available):


Continuous crying, then full recovery: 1 in 1000
Convulsions or shock, then full recovery: 1 in 14,000
Acute encephalopathy: 0-10.5 in 1,000,000
Death: None proven

Encephalitis or severe allergic reaction:
1 in 1,000,000


That section of the article goes on to conclude:


The fact is that a child is far more likely to be seriously injured by one of these diseases than by any vaccine. While any serious injury or death caused by vaccines is too many, it is also clear that the benefits of vaccination greatly outweigh the slight risk, and that many, many more injuries and deaths would occur without vaccinations. In fact, to have a medical intervention as effective as vaccination in preventing disease and not use it would be unconscionable.

Research is underway by the U.S. Public Health Service to better understand which vaccine adverse events are truly caused by vaccines and how to reduce even further the already low risk of serious vaccine-related injury.


If that list was legitimate, you’d probably have a lot more medical scientists on it, and a lot more high-tier medical scientists. Hell, you could probably even get Paul Offit, and that dude makes vaccines for a living. So why are there so few, and why are so many total cranks? Because, for the most part, doctors and medical scientists have wised up. They’ve learned from the lessons of the Discovery Institute, and they probably saw this list and realized, “Yeah, this is going to make me look like an antivaccine crank”. Because on forms and blogs, this list isn’t presented as “here’s a list of doctors who accept that vaccines are not 100% safe”. It’s presented as “here’s a list of doctors who agree that vaccines are bad for you”. Just like the “Dissent From Darwin” petition, which asked in a harmless fashion if the theory of evolution should be examined and held to scientific scrutiny was held up as evidence that there was a lot of scientists who believed that the theory of evolution was flawed.


But in the end, it doesn’t matter what any individual physician has to say on the matter. What matters is the evidence published in peer-reviewed journals. And in that case, it’s pretty much one-sided: all the available evidence points to vaccines being¬†safe and effective. You can throw out as many cranks as you want; that doesn’t change the actual evidence present. We know that there are a lot of medical scientists whose degrees aren’t worth their weight in cow shit; we don’t need more reminders of that. And we know that the anti-vaccine club is full of people who are perfectly willing to lie and distort the facts to support their position; we don’t need more evidence of that either.